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The Westboro "Baptist Church" a cult group made of a few dozen family members and loyal minions of Fred Phelps in Topeka, Kansas, has made headlines in recent years fore protesting at the funerals of soldiers, homosexuals, and AIDS victims, and outside churches and courthouse inbetween. The wave signs and shout phrases like "Thank God for Dead Soldiers" and "God Hates Fags!" (infact if you want to find their site in cyberspace just look up Godhatesfags.com). The members claim that Sept. 11 and the deaths of our fighting men are the result of "God's" anger at the U.S. for tolerating homosexuality.
Recently, the "church" protested at 20-year-old soldier's funeral in Maryland where the enraged father dropped a 10.9 million dollar lawsuit. We have yet to know what will become of this, but the father hopes it will at least give the message "stay out of Maryland". The church is cocky and unswayed saying it is the First Amendment Right and "Thank God for 10.9" (whatever that means).
My point is this, this act will NOT stop the Westboro "Baptist Church". The only action that would stop them might also endanger the rights to assemble and petition.
Who cares?! some people say. We don't need religious people going around spreading their hate everywhere! It would be better if their were no religion!! We need to teach tolerance!
That is in itself intolerant. Not all "religious people" are the Westboro baptist church

As a Christian (and a Baptist), it offends me that Westboro is going around commiting acts that are disgusting and revolting on the most basic levels and calling themselves a "church". It disgusts me that these people use the word "God" when they mean "Fred Phelps" and it disgusts me that most people reacting to Westboro are led to believe this is a "radical" of "extremist" Christian group.
Westboro does not represnt Christianity, not even a minority. It is evil on every level. It is a cult of personality centered around their beloved patriarch, and has much to do with the Living Loving Christ as the history of Spanish dairy farming has to do with Klingons.
Christ loves, Christ saves, Christ forgives. The Westboro cult is group of hate, condemnation, and unreasoning fury!
So how should we react? We cannot fight hate with hate. We can't deny people their constitutional rights. The freedom of speech means giving even people you disagree with a say. We can only spread the truth. That God loves everyone (even homosexuals!!) and that no one is perfect. Not America. Not Fred Phelps. Vengeance is not ours.


p.s. please dont tell any WBC members where I live
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Well said, God does love EVERYONE! And, contrary to 'popular' belief, it ISN'T homosexuals He hates, just the ACT itself is what goes against His teachings. That is why WE are not to judge ANYONE, EVER.

P.S. PLEASE tell them where I live, I DARE them to come around here spouting this trash!!! I welcome the chance to go 'toe to toe' with their bible reading, and I will even let them BRING their bible to debate from!!!

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Well said, God does love EVERYONE! And, contrary to 'popular' belief, it ISN'T homosexuals He hates, just the ACT itself is what goes against His teachings. That is why WE are not to judge ANYONE, EVER.

P.S. PLEASE tell them where I live, I DARE them to come around here spouting this trash!!! I welcome the chance to go 'toe to toe' with their bible reading, and I will even let them BRING their bible to debate from!!!

No, Walt, you DO NOT want this nut anywhere near your house. He is a looser all the way through. I can't believe he has followers dumb enough to follow his lead.

 

They tried to interview this jerk on CNN yesterday. The host, Rick Sanchez, couldn't get Fred Phelps to talk about, or answer, any questions. All he did was rant, rant, rant, on and on endlessly. Rather than listen to a question, and give an intelligent reply, he would take off spewing out a non-stop rant on one or two words and leave no room for debate. I would have cut the guy off long before Rick did… but then, letting him explode like that on the air for a while did give us viewers a clear idea of how big a nut job looser Fred Phelps is.

 

I mean, freedom of speech is one thing, disrupting a funeral of a solder, that was killed in action, or in the service of this country, and had absolutely nothing to do with anything homosexual, is another. These verbal attacks on the families of dead solders are not something that should be considered free speech. These attacks are rude, unethical, wrong-headed, and just outright stupid. That kind of activity should not be allowed period. This is not an example of free speech; it is an example of hostility un-caged. I say put it back in the cage and lose the key.

 

 

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Well said, God does love EVERYONE! And, contrary to 'popular' belief, it ISN'T homosexuals He hates, just the ACT itself is what goes against His teachings. That is why WE are not to judge ANYONE, EVER.

P.S. PLEASE tell them where I live, I DARE them to come around here spouting this trash!!! I welcome the chance to go 'toe to toe' with their bible reading, and I will even let them BRING their bible to debate from!!!

No, Walt, you DO NOT want this nut anywhere near your house. He is a looser all the way through. I can't believe he has followers dumb enough to follow his lead.

 

They tried to interview this jerk on CNN yesterday. The host, Rick Sanchez, couldn't get Fred Phelps to talk about, or answer, any questions. All he did was rant, rant, rant, on and on endlessly. Rather than listen to a question, and give an intelligent reply, he would take off spewing out a non-stop rant on one or two words and leave no room for debate. I would have cut the guy off long before Rick did… but then, letting him explode like that on the air for a while did give us viewers a clear idea of how big a nut job looser Fred Phelps is.

 

I mean, freedom of speech is one thing, disrupting a funeral of a solder, that was killed in action, or in the service of this country, and had absolutely nothing to do with anything homosexual, is another. These verbal attacks on the families of dead solders are not something that should be considered free speech. These attacks are rude, unethical, wrong-headed, and just outright stupid. That kind of activity should not be allowed period. This is not an example of free speech; it is an example of hostility un-caged. I say put it back in the cage and lose the key.

 

 

MACJR


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The best we can hope for is, like any good, self respectin' cult, they decide to have a picnic with some of that "special punch" that brings them closer to God.

Oops! Did I type that out loud?




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The best we can hope for is, like any good, self respectin' cult, they decide to have a picnic with some of that "special punch" that brings them closer to God.

Oops! Did I type that out loud?




Now THAT was too funny!!!! But of course, the hope is that IF this cult follows the next asteroid, they leave the children behind!!!

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Oh, yeah, definitely. 


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