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In case anyone missed it, The U.S.Navy shot down a Top Secret spy satellite on the evening news.

I'm having difficulty with a number of elements of this story, but let me start with a little background on the classification of secrets.

As far as I'm allowed to tell you, "Top Secret" is the highest level of classified matter. Information may be classified for many reasons, not only to protect an object or plan, but also to protect people involved in the development of the object or plan, or the people involved in the chain of procuring information.

Something that is truly Top Secret does not exist as far as the public is concerned. That is to say, if the public knows, then it is no longer Top Secret. So for starters, the satellite was not Top Secret.

There are many things that are Top Secret that become public knowledge. Officially, the information about these things may be declassified, or they may be unacknowledged. When Kennedy blew the abilities of reconnaissance imagery during the Bay of Pigs event, the capabilities were exposed but not the method. The idea of spy satellites is not classified. Almost everything else about them is to one degree or another.

Yet here we are, watching video and simulations of the satellite in flight, being told what fuel it's carrying as well as other details. Something is not right about this.

Then there's the shoot down. The United States spent a good deal of time and money designing missile defense systems. Anybody remember what Reagan called "Star Wars"? Some rather exotic designs bounced around, some of which were designed to destroy satellites. Now there's a big show of having the Navy shoot down a satellite with a heat seeking missile. Something is not right about this.

Then there's the debris. Watch carefully, this may be the real story. Due to the allegedly hazardous debris, all American radar installations have been placed on high alert, watching the skies for any particle of the satellite. Isn't that what they always do? Why are we being reminded of the tracking abilities of our radar, as well as the fact that
we have spy satellites, and can shoot down satellites? Something is not right about this.

A good paranoid like myself can come up with a dozen scenarios. Maybe it's as simple as the Satellite's orbit was altered, and the show was to hide it's continued existence, making it Top Secret again. Maybe we're just rattling our sabers.There were a couple of other odd stories this week that make me feel as if something else is happening. A plane carrying Senators diverted in Afghanistan. North Korea talking about it's weapons program. Iran talking about it's weapons program. Kosovo declares independence. Pakistan slowly implodes. Gaza simmers and the cool heads are Israeli. A B-2 crashes in Guam.

There's so much stuff out there, some of it is bound to come into contact with the fan.





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Well, perhaps now would be a good time to invest in open land, horses, cows, oxen, chickens, wagons, and plows that are pulled by oxen or horse.

 

Learning a bit of Russian and Chinese might be a good idea too. At least the basics, then which ever one of those countries does take over the US, you will have a head start on the new national language.

 

Russia will probably take Canada and at least some of the northern States; my guess is China will take most of the rest.

 

Oh, this is only if our world leaders don't blow us all to Kingdom Come instead.

 

You can thank the Bush administration for depleting our military might on a futile war and making our country so vulnerable that the other super powers are slobbering all over themselves as they prepare their invasion fleets.

 

You can thank big business for deporting all our jobs and making us economically a third world country unable to rebound from our governments excessive spending… and for selling far too much of our resources to other countries, such as China.

 

Heck, China might not even need to invade us, all they have to do is call in their markers and take over... and who here will be healthy enough to resist after all these years of being poised by Chinese imports?

 

Just one question, who is George W. Bush really working for anyway?

 

Anyway, sorry to go off on a while tangent, but I see how it all connects.

 

 

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MIB, let me throw another 'conspiracy thought' onto this fire: Did you notice the timing of the 'shoot down' of that satellite? Kinda coincided CLOSELY with the 'meteor' that crashed into Oregon last week, didn't it? Add to that, where IS that IMPACT CRATER? Where are the TONS of video fro the amateurs? Shouldn't the airwaves have been TOTALLY saturated with more than just the 'security tapes' of a deserted parking lot? Was I the only one noticing that when this 'meteor' apparently hit the ground NOT A SINGLE STREET LAMP NOR TREE MOVED AN INCH?

I can't even find ANY mention of that meteor in the Portland news agencies!


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MIB, let me throw another 'conspiracy thought' onto this fire: Did you notice the timing of the 'shoot down' of that satellite? Kinda coincided CLOSELY with the 'meteor' that crashed into Oregon last week, didn't it? Add to that, where IS that IMPACT CRATER? Where are the TONS of video fro the amateurs? Shouldn't the airwaves have been TOTALLY saturated with more than just the 'security tapes' of a deserted parking lot? Was I the only one noticing that when this 'meteor' apparently hit the ground NOT A SINGLE STREET LAMP NOR TREE MOVED AN INCH?

I can't even find ANY mention of that meteor in the
Portland news agencies!

Actually, the missile, excuse me, meteor, was on the east side of Washington State.

 

My guess is it was a Korean test missile... um, meteor.

 

 

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MIB, let me throw another 'conspiracy thought' onto this fire: Did you notice the timing of the 'shoot down' of that satellite? Kinda coincided CLOSELY with the 'meteor' that crashed into Oregon last week, didn't it? Add to that, where IS that IMPACT CRATER? Where are the TONS of video fro the amateurs? Shouldn't the airwaves have been TOTALLY saturated with more than just the 'security tapes' of a deserted parking lot? Was I the only one noticing that when this 'meteor' apparently hit the ground NOT A SINGLE STREET LAMP NOR TREE MOVED AN INCH?

I can't even find ANY mention of that meteor in the
Portland news agencies!

Actually, the missile, excuse me, meteor, was on the east side of Washington State.

My guess is it was a Korean test missile... um, meteor.

MACJR





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They think they can continue to tell us what they want us to hear.  They forget we live in a society of (somewhat) intelligent people who want to know what is going on in their country.  Military secrets are one thing but when we lose an entire country, they might have to fess up.

 

George Bush is not our enemy; our enemy is the 25-year veteran federal agent caught selling our “secrets” to the Russians.  Previously “conspiracy theory” was a term labeled for extreme paranoids.  They may have gotten away with nondisclosure 50 years ago but living in a society of readily available access to a multitude of media tools today has them squirming for answers.

 

Let’s face it, if a meteor shower was headed toward Earth, let alone the United States, we would have heard broadcasts days, possibly even weeks before this event was to take place.  Telling us meteors were landing in Oregon conveniently after the “shoot down” of the satellite doesn’t exactly wash now.

 

So now you have to wonder: which is more hazardous; meteors or satellite debris?  I think “high alert” is a term citizens should implement because the "fallout" is getting too risky.


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Just a few counterpoints to your post Chevy. 

 

I believe that the "Meteor" show was in the Spokane, WA area, and not in Portland, OR, but doing a search online shows that some say it was Portland, others say it was Spokane. Both cannot be right, there is several hundred miles difference between the two locations. CNN has links for the meteor video listed as Spokane in one location and Portland in another. Nah, CNN never makes a mistake like that, I must be mistaken. Anyway, it is no wonder people are confused as to just where this meteor event was.

 

In an administration as corrupt as the one George W. Bush is running, there is no way he is not the enemy. Whether by participation or complete incompetence, it matters not, what matters is the effect his administration has on this country. Being ignorant of what your administration is doing means you are still the enemy of the people you are supposed to be in charge of.

 

Personally, I seriously doubt that Bush is ignorant of what is going on, although it is highly likely that he his is incompetent and not too bright.

 

As for meteor showers, I am afraid you are very much mistaken. Yes, astronomers can predict known comet trails that can cause some very spectacular meteor shower; this is only for known comet trails that can be predicted to cross the Earth’s path in space. If the Earth passes through an unknown dust trail we will get an unexpected meteor shower. As for random meteors, they can come out of the blue, or the dark of night, at any time completely unannounced. Currently, they are only trying their best to track the bigger rocks in space, the extinction level threats.

 

 

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